Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Alex Tolley's avatar

Your argument seems to require rather unusual requirements - a common idea of control (e.g. nuclear) plus the difficulty of low enough cost achieved for small groups to evade the control.

The nuclear case has failed because even with nuclear regulation, weapons-grade uranium has been acquired by at least one government and it is possible even warheads have been acquired by governments. Whether the lurid stories of terrorists acquiring such bombs ever come true is still a possibility.

However, the main point I want to make is that some of the problems are based on the need for we humans to be spacefaring. This requires access to space to require methods suitable for launching human-sized bodies as well as the infrastructure to sustain people. It is possible that this requirement is too hard and/or costly to work. In that case, space-faring will just mean no permanent off-planet self-sustaining colonies.

OTOH, suppose that the future civilization is not human, but artificial? It is easier to launch small machines because the constraints on acceleration and life support are avoided. Space infrastructure does not need to have ECLSS, but can be open structures purely to hold things together. Machines can be almost anywhere in space, and as we have seen with the two Voyager probes, survive at least 40 years without repair. We may be within decades of the point of something intelligent enough to be called AGI being developed. Imbuing machines/robots is any variety of forms makes that technology far more adaptive than human biology. Whether those machines will be individually intelligent or require connection to a central computer is to be determined, but I would bet on further miniaturization to happen to allow local intelligence and even distributed local intelligence. At what point would such machines be considered a civilization? Could they escape human control? I think escape is almost inevitable. Whether they would become a civilization rather than an ecosystem of machines without the traits we require of civilizations, idk. However, others have concluded that the future will be robotic, whether they continue our civilization or create one[s] of their own Whether or not machines work with us or eventually exclude us, it should be clear that they have all the advantages in existing in space, an advantage that translates into outcompeting humans in space, and especially when we think of the requirements to reach other star systems.

Expand full comment
meika loofs samorzewski's avatar

I have often said (on various blogs for twenty years) that nuclear power should be reserved for space exploration (in particular the easiest to mine uranium ores, thorium not so much). Seems a waste to use it to boil water. Of course that is a perspective from within current technological frameworks. In Tasmania there is a forestry development at Myrtlebank which was planted especially for the tennis racket trade, by the time it came online may rackets were metal, as aluminium had become cheap (not 50km away there is a smelter, uses 30% of the hydro-electricity generated in the state).

Expand full comment
1 more comment...

No posts