Example or the worlding urge: "the idea that the attempt to transcend traditional morality should be in harmony with the best parts of history. " One part meta, one part chillaxed.
"I think that history could definitely benefit from a better understanding of how the interplay of personalities shapes history, and a properly constituted psychohistory could pursue this. But if we get the psychology of personality wrong, then we get the history wrong."
exactly, especially if the figurative study of selfing along (trad-psychology & older soteriological practices) excludes that which is composed with it, the worlding we do (this is my main beef with with shifting scales/phases in inter-dsicplinary efforts, we just plonked the other schema over the top and call it interdisciplinary.... (psychologism) and I note the definitions for psychohistory you started with exclude what I worry at... and I am very interested in the role of psycho-pathologies we do not police at individual nor at 'systems' levels).
"psychology in terms of a crisis in reasoning"
Ii'd say it was a matter of perception, they just do not see the world and so rarely figure it into the reasoning, even if the 'psychology' in description is apt/accurate.
"Vervaeke also talks a lot about meditation, and this doesn’t interest me at all"
me too, thus my jibes at the 'soteriological'
Writing on an adjacent topic currently, for Wednesday, labelled 'worlding and the sentimental theory of value' in which Max Stirner finally makes an appearance. My current blogging splurge started when I reflecting on reading Sitrner when I was about 20yo, now nearly 40 years ago. Back then _no one_ read him and I found him through some anarchist literature. It was just me and him and the other books I was reading, including Foundation.
I use the word policing because that's the word we use for the most general sense of policing ourselves and others.
I have planned to write a post on my use of the word, but I have yet to get a good grasp on what i mean: except I wish to avoid worse terms (military force) or ones that imply judgement by a judge outside of our squabbles. I have recently written as essay for work which looks at re-framing both Police Forces and Librarians as part of the caring professions, and this makes sense because some peeps are more scared of librarians than police ( I work in a library and people being scared of them is a thing, they do not feel cared for, and the systems of the library are about caring for future use which requires empathy... a confused presence in our midst). This is not about enforcing order, but allowing good things and good 'thinging'. (I say this as an anarchist BTW).
the pathologies are mostly examples that highlight the worlding we mostly fail to perceive in our reasoning of the self and its negotiations (things), and especially where we fail to 'police' those badnesses.
If we use the Latin (civitas) rather than the Greek (Polis) here, it would read where we fail to 'civilise' them, (though of course my imagined Nomad perjorative of city-types being 'hoofless' barbarians is worth restating here...)
A psychologism example may use the metaphor of "superego-ing" others and ourselves.
I am looking for a better word, but often my 'better' words, even if not a neologism are rare and obstruse.
"Where we fail to world ourselves and our others." Does that carry a sense of policing/behaving-well?
Yet again excellent background briefing material.
Some notes:
Example or the worlding urge: "the idea that the attempt to transcend traditional morality should be in harmony with the best parts of history. " One part meta, one part chillaxed.
"I think that history could definitely benefit from a better understanding of how the interplay of personalities shapes history, and a properly constituted psychohistory could pursue this. But if we get the psychology of personality wrong, then we get the history wrong."
exactly, especially if the figurative study of selfing along (trad-psychology & older soteriological practices) excludes that which is composed with it, the worlding we do (this is my main beef with with shifting scales/phases in inter-dsicplinary efforts, we just plonked the other schema over the top and call it interdisciplinary.... (psychologism) and I note the definitions for psychohistory you started with exclude what I worry at... and I am very interested in the role of psycho-pathologies we do not police at individual nor at 'systems' levels).
"psychology in terms of a crisis in reasoning"
Ii'd say it was a matter of perception, they just do not see the world and so rarely figure it into the reasoning, even if the 'psychology' in description is apt/accurate.
"Vervaeke also talks a lot about meditation, and this doesn’t interest me at all"
me too, thus my jibes at the 'soteriological'
Writing on an adjacent topic currently, for Wednesday, labelled 'worlding and the sentimental theory of value' in which Max Stirner finally makes an appearance. My current blogging splurge started when I reflecting on reading Sitrner when I was about 20yo, now nearly 40 years ago. Back then _no one_ read him and I found him through some anarchist literature. It was just me and him and the other books I was reading, including Foundation.
What does policing psycho-pathologies mean to you?
I use the word policing because that's the word we use for the most general sense of policing ourselves and others.
I have planned to write a post on my use of the word, but I have yet to get a good grasp on what i mean: except I wish to avoid worse terms (military force) or ones that imply judgement by a judge outside of our squabbles. I have recently written as essay for work which looks at re-framing both Police Forces and Librarians as part of the caring professions, and this makes sense because some peeps are more scared of librarians than police ( I work in a library and people being scared of them is a thing, they do not feel cared for, and the systems of the library are about caring for future use which requires empathy... a confused presence in our midst). This is not about enforcing order, but allowing good things and good 'thinging'. (I say this as an anarchist BTW).
the pathologies are mostly examples that highlight the worlding we mostly fail to perceive in our reasoning of the self and its negotiations (things), and especially where we fail to 'police' those badnesses.
If we use the Latin (civitas) rather than the Greek (Polis) here, it would read where we fail to 'civilise' them, (though of course my imagined Nomad perjorative of city-types being 'hoofless' barbarians is worth restating here...)
A psychologism example may use the metaphor of "superego-ing" others and ourselves.
I am looking for a better word, but often my 'better' words, even if not a neologism are rare and obstruse.
"Where we fail to world ourselves and our others." Does that carry a sense of policing/behaving-well?
it would also include a sense of improvisation as in "using the difficulty" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAB89fOdA-I